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Description of Tony Robbins Coaching
“Tony Robbins Coaching” is one of his many products
Tony Robbins, the celebrity motivational speaker, started “Tony Robbins Coaching” around 1999 as a brand extension of his self-help seminars and motivational products.
Commissioned sales persons sell the coaching program
Prospective clients are sometimes offered a short sample coaching session as an enticement. But they have to go through commissioned sales people until they sign a contract.
Clients must sign a restrictive long term contract
The Tony Robbins Coaching contract protects Robbins from “any warranties, promises, guarantees, or representations made by Tony Robbins Inc, US or anyone acting or claiming to act on behalf of Tony Robbins Inc. US”. In other words, once clients sign the Robbins contract, all promises by Robbins sales people and/or representations by Robbins literature regarding the coaching service are no longer valid. Contracts commit clients from 6 to 18 months.
Clients assigned to one coach
Robbins claims to have from 20 to 70 coaches. There is no mention of qualifications or standards. Robbins assigns the client to a coach, and clients have no say in the selection of their coach. Clients must justify to Robbins Coaching why they might be allowed to be assigned another coach.
Confusing fees
Coaching is sold in packages from 6 to 18 months that vary dramatically based upon contract length, payment terms, negotiations, other conditions, and are tough to pin down. We believe the lowest fees are about $3,200 (6 months) to about $10,000 (18 months) per package that require advanced payment in full. Cancellation fees are also required. These packages tout the Robbins name, irrespective of the quality or success of coaching.
Robbins Coaching information is difficult to get
The Tony Robbins Coaching guards the details about their coaching program. Little is published in public. The information on this page has been gathered from conversations with former clients, former Robbins coaches, online forums, Tony Robbins contracts and other sources. Obtaining factual or even published coaching fees has been very difficult. We welcome hearing from anyone who can provide us with more accurate information.
Analysis
Lack of published information is a matter for concern
The secrecy surrounding Tony Robbins coaching raises questions as to the nature and quality of the coaching service. It appears that fees, terms and conditions are subject to negotiations between sales people and prospective clients.
Any coach is good enough
It appears the Robbins approach does not take into consideration the importance of the relationship between the client and coach. There appears to be no concern that the personality and connection between the client and coach be favorable and positive. Under these conditions, it would be blind luck if a client connected with their ideal coach.
Disingenuous contract
It is devious to have commissioned sales people discuss and make promises about Tony Robbins Coaching with potential clients and then force clients to sign a contract that rejects anything the sales people said or represented. The commissioned sales people are highly motivated to make the sale. Thus, they can say anything to make the sale, knowing that they and Robbins are protected by the contract from anything they said to make the sale. The Robbins contract fully protects Tony Robbins while it binds the clients in many ways.
Success rates likely to be well below average
Robbins does not publish success rates. However, since the Robbins coaching system disregards and active violates the 6 Essential Conditions for successful coaching, it is most likely has a very low success rate.
Comparison of Tony Robbins Coaching with The Coach Connection
- Purpose of Provider
- The Coach Connection
To guarantee that TCC clients will achieve their coachable goals faster, easier, and more completely than elsewhere. - Tony Robbins Coaching
Sell as many coaching packages as possible. - Initial Contact
- The Coach Connection
Free “Discovery Conversation” with a client Advocate, to discover real objectives of clients and if client is best served with coaching. Commission free, pressure free, and obligation free. - Tony Robbins Coaching
Contact prior to signing a contract is funneled through commissioned sales people. - Coach Qualifications
- The Coach Connection
Coaches are admitted to the TCC pool only after extensive screening and evaluation – less than 7% of coaches are admitted from those who apply. - Tony Robbins Coaching
There are no published standards or qualification or screening of coaches. - Contracts
- The Coach Connection
None. TCC clients do not sign a contract with TCC or the TCC coaches. - Tony Robbins Coaching
Clients must sign a contract that commits clients to a minimum of 6 months and that protects Robbins from any representations made prior to signing the contract, to wit “absolves salespersons of any claims or promises made” and “absolves Robbins of advertising or prior representations”. - Fees and Guarantees
- The Coach Connection
The fee for the initial coaching cycle is $389 and include a 100% money-back satisfaction guarantee. Fees for subsequent cycles vary between $300 to $495 depending on the coach and number of sessions chosen by the client. TCC coach fees are openly published and explained beforehand. - Tony Robbins Coaching
Coaching packages vary dramatically from approximately $3,200 to over $10,000 for periods of 6 months to 18 months. No guarantees or promises of performance. Advanced payment in full required to get lowest rates. Cancellation fees required to cancel a coaching package, and clients are also charged an increased “monthly” rate for sessions completed. - Confidentiality Protection
- The Coach Connection
Complete confidentiality between the client and coach. Coaches are forbidden to reveal what transpires during coaching to anyone, including TCC personnel. - Tony Robbins Coaching
None. In fact, The Robbins contract states that coaching calls “may be monitored or recorded” for training and other purposes. - 6 Essential Conditions for Success through Coaching
- The Coach Connection
Deliberately establishes all 6 conditions before commencing any coaching activities. - Tony Robbins Coaching
Does not address the 6 conditions and actively violates at least 3 of them: coachable goals, ideal coach, and confidentiality. - Client Success Rate
- The Coach Connection
More than 96% of clients report they achieved or exceeded their goals. - Tony Robbins Coaching
Robbins does not report coaching success. Given the circumstances of their business and the deliberate violation of the 6 Essential conditions, it is likely their success rates are less than the industry average of 38%. - Transparency of information
- The Coach Connection
Presents comprehensive information on the website and in the Discovery Conversation. - Tony Robbins Coaching
Very little information online. Must rely on verbal promises and information from the commissioned sales persons – which is rendered useless by the contract.
